Comments on: Creationists’ new legistlative maneuvering: state “Academic Freedom” acts http://curricublog.org/2008/04/06/state-academic-freedom-acts/ Tony Whitson's blog on curriculum-related matters Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:33:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Louisiana anti-science law: 3 questions, 1 suggestion « Tony’s curricublog http://curricublog.org/2008/04/06/state-academic-freedom-acts/#comment-21532 Louisiana anti-science law: 3 questions, 1 suggestion « Tony’s curricublog Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:54:55 +0000 http://curricublog.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-21532 [...] Institute (DI), which has been a driving force behind the Louisiana statute in particular, and the wider campaign promoting laws like this across the [...] [...] Institute (DI), which has been a driving force behind the Louisiana statute in particular, and the wider campaign promoting laws like this across the [...]

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By: La. Science Education Act - final text « Tony’s curricublog http://curricublog.org/2008/04/06/state-academic-freedom-acts/#comment-21348 La. Science Education Act - final text « Tony’s curricublog Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:22:39 +0000 http://curricublog.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-21348 [...] here’s the text, as posted by John West at Discovery Institute (sponsors of this campaign across the nation).  AN [...] [...] here’s the text, as posted by John West at Discovery Institute (sponsors of this campaign across the nation).  AN [...]

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By: La’s Bio-major Gov. signs anti-Biology law « Tony’s curricublog http://curricublog.org/2008/04/06/state-academic-freedom-acts/#comment-21345 La’s Bio-major Gov. signs anti-Biology law « Tony’s curricublog Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:09:46 +0000 http://curricublog.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-21345 [...] by the Discovery Institute as a tactic for anti-evolution teaching in the public schools, this legislation in Louisiana is sure to accelerate the movement for similar legislation in other [...] [...] by the Discovery Institute as a tactic for anti-evolution teaching in the public schools, this legislation in Louisiana is sure to accelerate the movement for similar legislation in other [...]

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By: like teaching Klingon in French class « Tony’s curricublog http://curricublog.org/2008/04/06/state-academic-freedom-acts/#comment-21333 like teaching Klingon in French class « Tony’s curricublog Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:58:29 +0000 http://curricublog.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-21333 [...] I only want to point out how the situation promised by the anti-evolutionists’ “Academic Freedom” legislation (part of the “strengths and weaknesses” campaign that includes the Texas textbook [...] [...] I only want to point out how the situation promised by the anti-evolutionists’ “Academic Freedom” legislation (part of the “strengths and weaknesses” campaign that includes the Texas textbook [...]

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By: TX GOP 2008 platform on Education « Tony’s curricublog http://curricublog.org/2008/04/06/state-academic-freedom-acts/#comment-21332 TX GOP 2008 platform on Education « Tony’s curricublog Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:25:39 +0000 http://curricublog.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-21332 [...] of “theories of life origins and environmental theories” indicates support for the kind of anti-evolution legislation that has just passed in Louisiana, and now awaits signature by the Governor who, despite having [...] [...] of “theories of life origins and environmental theories” indicates support for the kind of anti-evolution legislation that has just passed in Louisiana, and now awaits signature by the Governor who, despite having [...]

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By: Tony Whitson http://curricublog.org/2008/04/06/state-academic-freedom-acts/#comment-21174 Tony Whitson Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:07:21 +0000 http://curricublog.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-21174 Bad (of The Bad Idea Blog) commented: <blockquote>As I noted, I really don’t see Minnesota’s bill as slipping into the same territory as the others. It doesn’t single out evolution or even biology, and it also at least provides some language that suggests that considerations of merit (”serious scholarly opinion”). Presumably that would allow governing boards to at least require some evidence of merit and serious publication support on behalf of a view before a professor can lecture on the merits of timecubism.</blockquote> Of course you're right, Bad. To me, the bigger difference is that the Minnesota bill is not concerned with K-12 schools at all, but only Higher Education. Still, the injection of that bill into the discussion raises the question of the relationship between the K-12 legislation and the <a href="http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/" rel="nofollow">David Horowitz-inspired college students' "Bills of Rights."</a> In both cases, the schools and colleges would claim they already have ways of ensuring proper education. University departments and disciplines do have ways of dealing with wayward instructors. What these laws would do is to shift the legal burdens of who can do what and how. Probably the greater effect is simply intimidation -- especially at the K-12 level. The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board is having a much harder time disposing of a petition from the Creation Science Institute for accreditation (hence, licensing of science teachers) for <a href="http://curricublog.org/2008/01/09/rich-source-on-tx-creationist-institutes-science-education-masters-degree/" rel="nofollow">their distance education degree in "science education,"</a> because of a Supreme Court decision limiting their power to interfere with theology curricula. This is the kind of environmental influence, if you will, that I think we're dealing with here. Anyway, Thanks for <a href="http://badidea.wordpress.com/2008/04/05/the-4th-wave-of-creationism-guerrillas-for-god/" rel="nofollow">your post</a>! Bad (of The Bad Idea Blog) commented:

As I noted, I really don’t see Minnesota’s bill as slipping into the same territory as the others. It doesn’t single out evolution or even biology, and it also at least provides some language that suggests that considerations of merit (”serious scholarly opinion”). Presumably that would allow governing boards to at least require some evidence of merit and serious publication support on behalf of a view before a professor can lecture on the merits of timecubism.

Of course you’re right, Bad.

To me, the bigger difference is that the Minnesota bill is not concerned with K-12 schools at all, but only Higher Education.

Still, the injection of that bill into the discussion raises the question of the relationship between the K-12 legislation and the David Horowitz-inspired college students’ “Bills of Rights.”

In both cases, the schools and colleges would claim they already have ways of ensuring proper education. University departments and disciplines do have ways of dealing with wayward instructors.

What these laws would do is to shift the legal burdens of who can do what and how. Probably the greater effect is simply intimidation — especially at the K-12 level.

The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board is having a much harder time disposing of a petition from the Creation Science Institute for accreditation (hence, licensing of science teachers) for their distance education degree in “science education,” because of a Supreme Court decision limiting their power to interfere with theology curricula. This is the kind of environmental influence, if you will, that I think we’re dealing with here.

Anyway, Thanks for your post!

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By: Bad http://curricublog.org/2008/04/06/state-academic-freedom-acts/#comment-21173 Bad Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:32:02 +0000 http://curricublog.wordpress.com/?p=210#comment-21173 As I noted, I really don't see Minnesota's bill as slipping into the same territory as the others. It doesn't single out evolution or even biology, and it also at least provides some language that suggests that considerations of merit ("serious scholarly opinion"). Presumably that would allow governing boards to at least require some evidence of merit and serious publication support on behalf of a view before a professor can lecture on the merits of timecubism. As I noted, I really don’t see Minnesota’s bill as slipping into the same territory as the others. It doesn’t single out evolution or even biology, and it also at least provides some language that suggests that considerations of merit (”serious scholarly opinion”). Presumably that would allow governing boards to at least require some evidence of merit and serious publication support on behalf of a view before a professor can lecture on the merits of timecubism.

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